Alasdair, I'm not sure what I have said that gives you the impression that I think Goverment looks down on you and Bob I haven't been suggesting that you arent doing extremely good work... not my point at all.
Forget funding and fees and membership the one thing that keeps hitting my in a good number of the replies I've read here is that generally "you lot" seem to look down on people who dont meet with your long term goals, they are just wannabees and have-a-go heros... it's not exactly an encouraging line to take. It really doesnt give out a good message and make you all sound a bit elitest.
The point that I was trying to make was that when you FIRST started however long ago that was, I'm sure that others viewed you in the same way that you now view this "Black Kinght" - lol... I take it then none of you have flashing lights???
Alasdair, I completely respect your point about prefering a small dedicated team and I can understand why